USB output is here

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  • clay holleman

    in the bluesound app on left side, click on HELP, then UPGRADE…

    I have been very pleased with the USB update…no problems - no dropouts, clicks, interruptions whatsoever, but i do not use ROON, only connect to DAC in my amp.

    I would be interested in any user feedback on differences in sound quality they have detected between the OPTICAL and USB inputs. Do you notice any increase or decrease in gain/loudness ?

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  • Victor Levis

    The ARCAM AVR10 advert states that it has a rear panel USB port "for audio playback from USB storage devices"

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  • Seppi Evans

    Thought as much, so no you cannot connect the NODE to your Arcam via USB but you can use the optical, coaxial or probably best the analogue outputs.

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  • Victor Levis

    The Optical tops out at 96khz.

    The Coaxial reaches 192khz on Amazon Music Ultra HD tracks. I also prefer the stronger cable.

    Analogue means using the Node's DAC but the Arcam DAC is higher rated.

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  • Seppi Evans

    Only ever go by what your ears tell you rather than specifications or graphs. So with your Arcam it’s coaxial or analogue to evaluate. 

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  • Victor Levis

    Agreed, Seppi. I did that. I judged the sound better from the Arcam's DAC. The reviews just confirmed it for me.

    The Node is $599 USD. It makes sense that the DAC in the Node is cheaper than the Arcam' s.

    There is a small nuance. If you stream Tidal MQA Masters at 192khz (small minority of tracks), the pass-through is limited to 96 kHz.

    So if you prefer the BluOS app to the Arcam Life, and don't want to stream Tidal directly into the Arcam, then you might want to see if the Node's DAC at 192khz sounds better than the Arcam's at 96 kHz.

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  • Greg Pugh

    Sorry to hear that people are still having issues. I ended up selling my Node and purchasing another streamer as a result of Bluesound's refusal to take these concerns seriously. I wish those of you still struggling with it the best.

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  • Mark

    I'm not struggling, I'm just waiting patiently for the ROON fix that I am sure will come sometime soon. Software implementation is complicated and things take time. I'm sure they're taking our whining, I mean, concerns seriously. I love my NODE!

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  • Yamil Llanos

    Hi. I'm interested in getting a NODE device to be used as a streamer with external DAC.  Can the NODE power a USB DAC? I'm thinking on getting a Motu M2 but I see no references to USB-powered DACs.

     

    Thanks

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  • clay holleman

    yes you can…i connect a USB cable from the USB output on the new NODE to the USB input on my Simaudio 240i integrated amp. It works great and i’m able to access even higher resolution files, bypassing the NODE’s internal DAC. I stream thru Amazon Music and currently have a free trial with Tidal. Both work fantastic and are glitch free. I use an ethernet connection, but experienced no issues with WIFI. Keep in mind, you will not have access to MQA files unless your DAC supports it. If you use the NODE’s DAC, then you can access MQA on Tidal, but the max sampling rate on the unit is 24/196. 

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  • clay holleman

    and maybe i’m confused by your question about the NODE’s ability to POWER a USB DAC. You still need a power source for your DAC. The NODE is not a power source. The POWERNODE has amplification and also acts as a streamer/dac. 

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  • Yamil Llanos

    and maybe i’m confused by your question about the NODE’s ability to POWER a USB DAC. You still need a power source for your DAC. The NODE is not a power source. The POWERNODE has amplification and also acts as a streamer/dac

    Not much of a difference, but Motu M2 is an audio interface with a good DAC.

    So not really. Some are USB-powered only:

    https://cdn-data.motu.com/django_prod/filer_public_thumbnails/filer_public/76/3b/763b0ffe-266d-493c-bfc0-96416f5a8254/m2_rear_2.png__1200x1200_q85_subsampling-2.png 

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  • Enricoclaudio

    It does work. I just tested my NODE USB out with an Apogee Duet which powers over USB and the NODE recognizes it and powers it up without any problems. 

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  • Yamil Llanos

    It does work. I just tested my NODE USB out with an Apogee Duet which powers over USB and the NODE recognizes it and powers it up without any problems. 

     

    Thanks as always Enrico

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  • Yamil Llanos

    BTW @Enricoclaudio how do you control the volume on NODE/Apogee combo? is it directly on the interface? Can a volume control be implemented via IR remote?

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  • clay holleman

    i see…when you say powered, you mean the unit has only a USB connection..

    you’ve read this from bluesound i presume ?

    NODE (N130) can transfer digital audio (USB Audio 2.0) to an external DAC via the USB Type-A slot.

    When connecting an external DAC to the USB port of NODE (N130), the USB port is automatically enabled.

    Note: When the USB port is enabled, other audio outputs (Analog/COAX/Optical) are disabled.

    To manually enable the USB port, perform the following steps:

    1. Connect a compatible external DAC to the USB port of NODE (N130).
    2. In the BluOS Controller App, select Player Drawer.
    3. Select the context menu (3 dots) of the required NODE (N130).
    4. Select Audio Settings.
    5. Select the external DAC from Select output.

    To disable the USB port (without unplugging the external DAC) and enable other audio outputs (Analog/COAX/Optical), set the Select output to Default in the Audio Settings screen of NODE (N130).

    My amp has a USB-B input so i had to purchase an A-B cable…i notice the unit you are looking at is USB-C.

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  • Enricoclaudio

    The Apogee DUET has a volume control. As soon you add a DAC to the NODE USB out, the volume control on Bluesound app defaults to Fixed. 

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  • Mark

    Any word on using USB output with ROON yet?

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  • Hi Mark

    This is a setting in ROON - please see an earlier post in this thread on how to resolve; https://support1.bluesound.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/4417417052567/comments/4417435198999

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  • Mark

    Hi Tony,  I was talking about the sound artifacts, clicks and such, when using the USB output via ROON. I am not using an MQA DAC.

    Is it not considered "in Beta" anymore?  It still has a bad output.  Can you please tell me if this is still in the works or not?

     

    Thx, M

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  • If you are hearing audible clicks or ticks between songs when formats change - please contact your DAC manufacturer about muting settings.

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  • Petri K

    I can still hear clicks/ticks during playback, about every 20-30 seconds or so. It's not related to when format changes. 

     

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  • Mark

    @Petri K,  Exactly! Mine too.  It seems related to the USB implementation and its relation to ROON.

    I guess it's easier to answer a question that has not been asked than one that was.

    They know it does this because they've said it was "in Beta." Which is where I think it will stay.

    Bluesound, If you can't/won't fix it, just say so.  Don't keep BS-ing us please.  

     

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