track order should not be based on sound quality

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    Tony W.
    Product Support Manager

    Likely when they were tagged, they were tagged differently. My guess is some include Disc No. and others don't.

  • Martin van den Boogaard

    Thanks for your swift reply, Tony. None of the tracks have Disc # filled. Are there other tags that are relevant to the ordering? Box? Is there documentation on the ordering within an album?

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  • Alain DW
    Lossless

    I have also noticed that the BluOS in the windows app orders the tracks of an album without track number (carefully removed) to some mysterious algorithm.

    It's not alphabetical nor in the sequence of the original album. Is it random???

     

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  • woodie

    Tony you are wrong.

    I have seen the same thing, lower resolution tracks are put at the end of the queue. It is bizarre logic, but clearly intentional.

    Nothing to do with tagging. See this:

    https://support1.bluesound.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360051563974-Getting-files-in-the-intended-order-in-folders

    Or this:

    https://support1.bluesound.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/1500001294722-Getting-files-in-the-intended-order-in-folders

    Or many others

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  • Tony W.
    Product Support Manager

    Hi Woodie..

    Thanks for reminding me if the corrected answer I posted on that thread here; https://support1.bluesound.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/1500001294722/comments/4407154381463 in response to Blair's post one up which suggests it is the Disc number and the Disc of number combined...

    https://support1.bluesound.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/1500001294722/comments/4407159437463

    As the official answer to that thread, I mentioned this thread; https://support1.bluesound.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360037248874 which does go into greater detail about mismatched tags...

     

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  • woodie

    I don't use 'Disc number' and always remove it.

    I edit my tags *very* carefully with Kid3 and/or MP3tag.

    I can assure you that the poster is 100% correct, Bluesound puts lower-resolution tracks in an album at the end of the play queue. This is a repeatable phenomena.

    I get around it by converting MP3 files to FLAC using Audacity (which has a steep but worthwhile learning curve). Of course the fidelity does not improve, but at least the tracks are correctly ordered.

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  • Martin van den Boogaard

    So, twelve days later and no progress. I haven't yet read any good reason why resolution should determine the ordering of a playlist. Maybe the people at Bluesound know why they implemented this, but instead of telling us why, we, the users, are blamed for not carefully enough managing the tags of our music. Yes, we are careful and, no, we don't want resolution-based ordering. Please remove this "feature" unless there is a very good technical reason not to. I've paid a considerable sum of money for all my Bluesound gear; now I want it to play my music the way I want to hear it.

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  • Tony W.
    Product Support Manager

    Hi Martin

    Please see the threads I cited - the issue and cause has to do with how tags are read in different formats. Again, please check that all tags are identical across both platforms. That being said, unsure why when ripping your CDs you would choose to encode some songs as different formats than others. The real solution to this issue is to re-rip your offending CDs using 16/44.1 lossless and the same encoding format.

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  • woodie

    Tony, instead of being 'positional' about this issue, why not get 'curious'?
    You might learn something.

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  • Martin van den Boogaard

    Maybe tags are different between mp3 and flac/alac, but the only tags that are relevant here are the track number and the disc number, all the rest is irrelevant for the track order, at least for me. If utilities such as JRiver can sort a collection of files of various qualities using these two tags, why wouldn't BluOS be able to do this. Or, even better: let me decide in the BluOS app how I want my tracks to be sorted (track #, release date, performing artist, ...). I pay a considerable sum of money for my Bluesound equipment, please enable me to use it the way I want to.

    @Tony: ripped cd's are not the only source of music on BluOS. Indeed, most of my albums are rips or purchased album downloads, but I also combine individual tracks from various sources (hd, cd, mp3) into a custom album, say a collection of non-album tracks. Storing these 1000+ tracks as individual albums would clutter my collection, so I prefer to store them as a single album  and then sort them the way I think appropriate. I know I could fix this by converting all this music into a single format, but I find the idea of converting my mp3's to hd-flac ridiculous if its only purpose is to circumvent BluOS's stubborn sorting practice. Does that make sense?

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