NAD M10 V2 and Surrounds

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D C
Hi, I can see from the spec sheet I can add flex pulse surrounds to the M20 V2. I heard somewhere the powernode or powernode edge can also be used as surrounds for it. Is this correct? Thanks.
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  • D C

    That’s great, thank you!

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  • D C

    I have another question. When using Dirac does it calibrate the surround speakers in addition to the front?

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  • D C

    Thanks, I’ll wait and see if anyone else knows or if I find out I’ll update the post.

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  • D C
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    Just in case anyone needs to know, on this page:

    https://nadelectronics.com/product/m10-v2/

    It says “The M10 V2 can store up to five Dirac profiles for different listening positions, surround setups, or room conditions—for example whether the drapes are open or closed”.

    I’ll take it from that, Dirac can set up a surround profile for HT and stereo profile for just music.

    Edit - Actually no it’s not. I checked with bluesound customer service and they have said the info on their website isn’t correct and they will review it to see if it needs to be changed. 

    Dirac will only effect the speakers connected to the M10 V2, the rear speakers will operate without any calibration. 

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  • BluOSfan

    It’s so sad to have the rear speakers without Dirac calibration. I have the M10 V2 and bought a pair of BlueSound Pulse 2i speakers thinking and even upgrade for Dirac Full version only to realize that the Pulse surrounds are not even detected

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  • D C

    Yeah, I did something similar except with a powernode powering the rear speakers. They really missed out on the potential of this product. They didn’t even update the description like they said they would. I returned mine for an AVR.

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  • BluOSfan

    @DC today is 2023 Feb 3, the misleading phrase about Dirac Live is still on the product page:

    "The M10 V2 can store up to five Dirac profiles for different listening positions, surround setups, or room conditions—for example whether the drapes are open or closed”.

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  • D C

    Yeah, I thought it was just me interpreting it wrong, but it’s assuring to hear someone else has had the same understanding. Have you spoke to their customer service team?

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  • BluOSfan

    @Seppi Evans, thanks for providing contact info for NAD. It is misleading advertising on NAD's part. 

    I also hope they won't blame the issue on Bluesound not being to support Dirac Live on surround speakers.

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  • Tony W.
    Product Support Manager

    I also hope they won't blame the issue on Bluesound not being to support Dirac Live on surround speakers.

    That is in fact the exact reason. Your Bluesound products do not include DIRAC Live. The DIRAC software in the NAD M10 cannot accommodate nor adjust the audio output of a separate audio amplifier that is located in the PULSE FLEX, unlike in a traditional AV Receiver (such as the NAD T758) where the external speakers are controlled by the same amplifier board.

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  • BluOSfan
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    @Tony W, thanks for the explanation, now it makes sense!

    The below follow-up question is probably for NAD to answer, but with your in-depth knowledge about Pulse speakers, your feedback is appreciated:

    Do you think it's better to turn the Pulse speakers OFF to run Dirac Live or leave them ON while calibrating, despite the fact that Pulse amps can't be control by the NAD amp?

    I wonder which way has less deleterious affects? 

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  • Tony W.
    Product Support Manager

    In speaking with our good friends at NAD Electronics, they would suggest for the best results, break the group and measure and calibrate the NAD M10 on its own. Then set up your Home Theatre Group afterwards.

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