Native Apple Music Integration with Airplay2

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    Hi Nick (et al)

    As you keenly noted; And whilst appreciating you must operate under various industry and Bluesound/Apple non regulatory of commercial confidentiality agreements

    Unfortunately this is the case and we would love to share more if we could. Thanks for your continued patience...

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    Anillambert

    Could not agree more with this. Seriously, Bluesound, you're a decent-sized outfit. Surely you have some messages worked out on this front you could give us. It's a huge gap. 

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    Peter speijer

    Hi,

    Strange thing is that Apple already mentions Bluesound as a partner in this article https://www.apple.com/nl/newsroom/2018/05/ios-11-4-brings-stereo-pairs-and-multi-room-audio-with-airplay-2/

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    Robert Kunen

    I also am patiently waiting for two years already for Apple Music to become integrated in BluOS. I've had Tidal for a while but ended up paying two streaming services as my wife and kids are using Apple Music in the family subscription.

    Frankly, on my iPad switching between the BluOS Controller and Apple Music is a pain and the Bluetooth connection isn't 100% stable. I want Apple Music to be as convenient as Tidal was within the BluOS environment.

    Probalby we need not to express our needs at Bluesound. We also must express it at Apple. I have already done so multiple times...

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    Robert Kunen

    To add on my previous post: to let Apple know you want them to allow Apple Music integration into BluOS, do so here:

    https://www.apple.com/feedback/apple-music.html

    The more people requesting this, the better.

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    Aaron Koolen-Bourke

    So I stumbled upon this thread, then noticed you have Airplay 2 support...but only on your 2i hardware? Please tell me this is not the case and it's available for original players too?

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  • Hi Aaron

    Thanks for asking. Apple AirPlay 2 does require a specific hardware authentication chip set to work. This chip set is not included in our previous product line up but is part of our New Gen 2i line.

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    Joeguth

    Let me ask two questions to clarify this:

    1  Now that Node 2i has Airplay 2, is Apple Music integrated as a streaming service using the Node 2i and BluOS? I take it the answer is no or we'd have heard about that.

    2. With Airplay 2 on Node 2i, does this mean the Node 2i can stream music to the Apple ecosystem, like to an Airport Express with connected speakers, as well as BlueSound speakers?  Or does it just mean Node 2i can be used as one endpoint that an Apple device using Airplay 2 can stream to along with other Airplay 2-compatible streaming endpoints (like an Airport Express)?

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  • Hi Joeguth

    1) The answer is in fact Yes. With Apple AirPlay 2, Apple Music is implied. Sorry for the confusion

    2) Bluesound Gen 2i products are Apple AirPlay 2 end points, like your Apple TV. You cannot group Bluesound's native Tidal implementation with an Apple TV but if you are using the Tidal App on your phone, you can AirPlay that to Bluesound and group it with your Apple TV.

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    Aaron Koolen-Bourke

    To be honest, this whole Apple Music thing with BlueSound reeks of either incompetence or market choices to screw over current customers and get them to upgrade. They should have been able to support Airplay 1 (2004 - HELLO!) a long time ago. But instead they go for 2, and expect people to upgrade their units.

    During this time they have been utterly terrible talking with customers on this, keeping us updated and engaging with us. They operate like an old school company who treats their customers with disdain and expect to just release a product and people to buy it.

    This whole issue has made me decide that I will not be buying any more BlueSound products in the future. I'll go to one of the many other companies that have more respect for their customers.

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    Robert Kunen

    Same here, I'm truly disappointed in BlueSound.

    Had an Auralic Aries before from which I could easily stream from my iPhone or iPad over WiFi. Now, with the BluOS MDC module in my NAD M12 I have to connect to Bluetooth every time, which requires going to settings, inconvenient.

    But I really expected the BluOS ecosystem to have integrated Apple Music just like it has Qobuz or Tidal and still don't understand why not.

    Plus, upgrading is not an option for MDC users, or?

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  • Hi Robert

    Regarding Bluetooth - Settings, Player Bluetooth, Automatic. www.bluesound.com/bluetooth for more details

    Regarding Apple and Spotify versus TIDAL and Qobuz. It really depends on the Music Services API and SDK. Both TIDAL and Qobuz have an intergation model API allowing us to directly add their service into our App. The advantage of which is you can mix and match their music with your private collection. The limitation is when you are away from home, you have to use their native App and lose your home customization.

    Like Spotify's connect model, Apple is using an end-point model. This does not let you intermix your home content with theirs but allows the user of that service to have a single point of control and customization so you are using the same App regardless if you are on the run or at home relaxing and unwinding.

    It really depends on what model the Music Service provides us.

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    Robert Kunen

    Thank you @Tony W for your answer.

    I am familiar with the Automatic Bluetooth setting, however that solves the issue only on the Bluesound side. On my iPhone, each time I must go to Settings, the Bluetooth, then connect to my BluOS MDC module, only then I can select the BluOS module in the airplay endpoints. On my Auralic, all this was not needed, because my iPhone had the Auralic streamer directly available without Bluetooth connection. My iPhone would see the Auralic as AirPlay endpoint over Wifi. It was much more convenient. If Auralic can do it, why not BlueSound?

    I understand that Bluesound depends on whatever API and SDK is offered by the streaming service and Apple is probably not the most accessible steaming service, being arrogant as they are. I already called in another post as much Bluesound users as possible to push Apple for opening up the possibility for integration into BluOS as Apple is more the problem than Bluesound there. I provided the link where to go to push but I believe so far only one other BluOS user followed my example...

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